1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 story the night the ghost got in originated. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,000 And it looks like Jason and Grant have arrived just in time. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 James are you here? 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Oh jeez, Jay this clock face is popped open. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Can the team handle the James Thurberhouse on the night the ghost got in? 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,000 What the hell is that? 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,000 I heard movement. 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Is there someone in here with us? 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Then it's off to the races in Saratoga Springs as Taps tackles a paranormal landmark. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,000 I heard that. 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 That was clearly a male voice. 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:38,000 And Steve has a brush with the spirits of the Canfield Casino. 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,000 What am I doing? 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Are you doing it? Are you tapping me? 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 I'm not tapping you man. 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Are you able to get that off? 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Yeah. 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,000 It's Chris Williams. 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Hey Chris, what's up? 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Hey guys, I have a case for you. 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 It's in Columbus, Ohio. 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,000 It's called the Thurberhouse. 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Thurberhouse? 24 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,000 There was an author who lived there, James Thurber. 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,000 He actually had a big experience there that he wrote about later. 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:20,000 But there's also stories of a lunatic asylum that was on the property years before that burned to the ground and left seven dead. 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,000 And there's also a story about a murder suicide. 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 As far as activity, I mean they have quite a bit. 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,000 They have footsteps, they have lights turning on and off, doors opening and closing. 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,000 They've seen apparitions, so they have a lot going on. 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Oh, alright, sounds good. 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 We're going to be done over here in just a few. 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Alright, I'll see you guys in a little bit. 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Alright, great. 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Bye. 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,000 So Chris just told us about a case of Thurberhouse in Columbus, Ohio. 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 I think it's going to be a great case to get Steve and Dave back out there with us. 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 They've been gone a while doing Ghost Hunters Academy. 39 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 And this will be a nice one to start back off on. 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 It was a lot of fun, you know, teaching people. 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,000 But, you know, what we really like to do is investigate. 42 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 We're investigators, so it's going to be exciting. 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:08,000 We're back in full force and hopefully the team will come together just as it did, you know, before we left for the academy. 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Hey, how are you? 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Hi, I'm Jason. 46 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Hi, I'm Ann. 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Hi, Ann Grant. 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Nice to meet you. 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Nice to meet you. 50 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Thanks for coming. 51 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 We had Taps come in because so much stuff has happened in this house. 52 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Too much stuff to ignore. 53 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:29,000 So maybe they'll be able to validate a little bit all these things that have gone on for people over the years. 54 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 It would be really great if Taps found some sort of concrete evidence. 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,000 So what can you tell us about James Thurber? 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Well, James Thurber is a famed humorist. 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:43,000 He was a cartoonist for The New Yorker and he lived here with his family between 1913 and 1917. 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:51,000 The house was actually built in 1873 on the site of the former Ohio Lunatic Asylum, which burned down in 1868. 59 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 And we think maybe that's a little bit about what's going on here. 60 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Were there any deaths that happened during the fight? 61 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Seven people died and I think actually they were all women. 62 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Now Thurber had his own paranormal experience here, didn't he? 63 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,000 He did. Actually in a story made famous in his book My Life in Hard Times. 64 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,000 They're all stories about when he lived in this house. 65 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Well, do you want to give us a tour? Show us the hot spots and tell us about it? 66 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Yeah, sure. Sounds great. 67 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,000 After you. 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,000 So where are we now? 69 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:24,000 We are in the gift shop area, but when Thurber lived here it would have been the dining room. 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,000 And this is where Thurber's story, The Night the Ghost Got In, originated. 71 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:36,000 He was at the top of the stairs in the bathroom and all of a sudden he heard deliberate footsteps 72 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 marching around what would have been the dining room table. 73 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 So he runs down the hall, gets his brother, they come back and they're listening over. 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:49,000 And then all of a sudden the footsteps kind of briskly go up the stairs. 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 When the footsteps get to the top of the stairs, they stop. 76 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 They freak out and that is the famous story. 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 How old was James at this time, do you know? 78 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 It was when he was in his late teens. 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Anything else in here? 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Well, just one other thing. When I first started here, I had the office that's in the back room here. 81 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 And I was in the house alone. 82 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:16,000 I'm sitting at my desk and I hear my boss's chair above me rolling around. 83 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 I heard footsteps. 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 I'm also not the only person who's had that experience. 85 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Other people who've had this office have also experienced similar things. 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Okay. 87 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 So where are we now? 88 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,000 We call this the Alcove. 89 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:34,000 A woman who lived here and she was sleeping in this room and woke up and saw a man sitting in a rocking chair 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 across from her with his hands on his knees. 91 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,000 She just sort of laid back down and then he was gone. 92 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:50,000 And another story is this clock on the mantle does not work, hasn't worked in the history of it being in this house. 93 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,000 And my co-worker was sitting in her office one day and all of a sudden it chimed. 94 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,000 I could hear the clock go off and it rang four times, very distinctly, very loudly. 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,000 So loud in fact that I actually jumped. 96 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 I've been here for four years since and it's never done it since then. 97 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Our cleaning crew was in here and they were getting ready to leave and one of them had noticed that they left a light on. 98 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:20,000 We had finished the whole house and we were getting ready to leave and I'm like, oh, we forgot to turn the light off. 99 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,000 And my friend said, well, why don't you have your ghost turn it off? 100 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:30,000 And soon as she said that, it was like someone took their hands on the cabinet and just started shaking it. 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 I won't come in here alone because I'm afraid. 102 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,000 We're honored to be able to add James Thurber to our list of great American authors whose homes we've been able to investigate. 103 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Mark Twain, Edith Wharton, Harry Beecher Stowe. 104 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Hopefully I can experience something similar to what he experienced and actually wrote down in a book. 105 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,000 It should be cool. 106 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Hey. Hey. Hey guys. 107 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,000 All right, so we're good? 108 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Yeah, we're good. 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Let me show you these camera angles and if you guys like them, we'll lock them down. 110 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Camera one is outside. 111 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Camera two here, this is the dining room. 112 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,000 They claim to have seen an apparition over next to the den area. 113 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,000 And if you're wondering about that mini-DV in the shot, that's just getting a close-up of the clock in case that happens. 114 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Got you. 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Camera three, well, it's not a gift room, but it used to be the dining room. 116 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 They claim to hear an apparition move right by. 117 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Got you. 118 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 That'll be it for our DVR cameras. 119 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 All right, sweet. 120 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Let's go lights out. 121 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 All right, guys. 122 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Jay and Grant just headed in through the back door, first floor. 123 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Jay and I headed in to investigate the Thurber house and the first place we headed to was the mantle clock in the dining room. 124 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Did you hear that though? 125 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Just been moving it, just activating the chime. 126 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Okay, we made the clock work though. 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Okay, well, that makes sense. 128 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Anything shakes in the house, you could get the chime from it. 129 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Well, it's working though. 130 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 See, the gear. 131 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,000 You think about it, if you move this thing, it's going to set to that pendulum swinging. 132 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 It's working right now. 133 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Once we had the clock working by just moving it, Jay and I went about investigating James Thurber's claim itself, where he heard someone running around the dining room table and then running up the stairs. 134 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Now, I can definitely see even back then, this wood on the floors, you could easily hear somebody walking around. 135 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:49,000 The thing is, if somebody broke into your house, just hear it all out and they were moving around and stuff, and you're at the top of the stairs and they hear you, they're going to be, you know, heading out. 136 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Boom. 137 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Yeah, they're going to stop or run. 138 00:07:52,000 --> 00:08:00,000 And if they're running, I wonder if me running through here is going to sound the same as if I'm coming up towards you if you're at the top of those stairs. 139 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Just give it a shot. 140 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Alright, here I am walking around the dining room area. 141 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Alright. 142 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Okay. 143 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Now, I'm going to run out through the front. 144 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Alright, go ahead. 145 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Alright, here I go. 146 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Yeah. 147 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:28,000 If I was nervous and worried, I would think that you were heading to the base of the stairs, especially if I was a kid thinking someone broke into my house. 148 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Your natural inclination is they're going to come up the stairs. 149 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 That's what you're going to be thinking. 150 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Of course. 151 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Especially when you're up there, if you were 17, 18 or 19 years old thinking someone has broken into your house, your nerves are on edge and you're automatically going to assume that that person's going to come up after you. 152 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 So, it makes a lot of sense. 153 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 It could be what happened. 154 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Is there anyone here with us? 155 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 James, are you here? 156 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Oh my God. 157 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Oh, jeez. 158 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Oh my gosh, look at this. 159 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Hey, Jay, this clock face just popped open. 160 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Jay and I were investigating. 161 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,000 I was in the main boyer and Jay was back in the study. 162 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Is there anyone here with us? 163 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 James, are you here? 164 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Oh my God. 165 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Oh, jeez. 166 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Oh my gosh, look at this. 167 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,000 All of a sudden, the face plate to the clock popped open. 168 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Did it really? 169 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Yeah. 170 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Look, it can move the whole clock if it doesn't open. 171 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,000 You see that? 172 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Mm-hmm. 173 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,000 I don't know. 174 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 It's just not what I tried. 175 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 It's pretty solid, look. 176 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,000 We really tried to just jiggle it open or try to open it and it actually takes a good amount of force. 177 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,000 I wouldn't believe that that would just pop open on its own. 178 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Why did that pop open? 179 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 I mean, DV might have caught it. 180 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 And I was over here. 181 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Is there anyone here with us? 182 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 James, are you here with us? 183 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 We'd like to meet your face to face. 184 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,000 I don't know what created that thing to pop open. 185 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 We're going to see what happens. 186 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 We have a camera covering it. 187 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Chris and Amy in the parlor, Thurberhouse. 188 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,000 All right, so there's the story of the husband and wife that lived here. 189 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,000 And supposedly, he ended up shooting her and shooting himself. 190 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:51,000 I mean, that is an intense emotional moment that could definitely produce energy. 191 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Well, people hear footsteps all the time, especially in the staircase. 192 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Oh, okay. 193 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:02,000 And they say, too, that the footsteps, they'll hear and pacing the second floor and they'll stop right outside the bedroom. 194 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Oh, so does somebody live upstairs? 195 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 It looks like it kind of. 196 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Well, what they do is they use the first floor and the second floor. 197 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 What the hell is that? 198 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Who's that? 199 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Hello? 200 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Hello? 201 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:40,000 At one point, Amy and I were investigating in the parlor and we were doing some EVP work when we heard the sound of footsteps. 202 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,000 And they actually sounded like they were on the staircase or on the second floor of the house. 203 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,000 I heard this again. 204 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Palace footsteps sound like they're right up on the next floor. 205 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Well, it's crazy. 206 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 We heard the footsteps again. 207 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 It definitely sounded like somebody was on the third floor. 208 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Hello? Is anybody up here with us? 209 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Hello? 210 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Well, there's nobody up here. 211 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,000 No, there's nobody up here. 212 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 This doesn't make any sense. 213 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:29,000 I mean, all we can do at this point is hope that maybe we caught something on one of the recorders or the DVR or cameras. 214 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Exactly. 215 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,000 That's weird. 216 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 First floor here, Thurber's house. 217 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,000 You want to start at the foyer and work our way this way? 218 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,000 Or do you want to start here and work our way that way? 219 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,000 I want to go straight to wherever they were having some activity. 220 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,000 The clock. 221 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Where the clock is. 222 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Alright, let's go. 223 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:02,000 I'll tell you what, we were investigating on the first floor and Jason and Grant actually claimed that they had some interaction with the clock that didn't make sense with them. 224 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 So we wanted to get to the bottom of what's going on with the clock. 225 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 I mean, this isn't the accurate time. 226 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,000 This is just because they got it to actually start. 227 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Let's see if we can get this to happen for us. 228 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Let's make sure this is secure. 229 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Yes, it's definitely, that thing's on there. 230 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Alright, that's secure. 231 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,000 So I'm just going to pop off. 232 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Alright, vibrations aren't just going to dislodge it. 233 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Right. 234 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Alright. 235 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Put the MS near it. 236 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Alright, it looks like it's at a steady point one. 237 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Hello. 238 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,000 My name's Steve. 239 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,000 My name's Dave. 240 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 And we're here just to talk to you about that clock. 241 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,000 You're a guest in your house. 242 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:57,000 So please, if you were the one who manipulated the clock, 243 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 can you do it again for us, please? 244 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 I heard the movement. 245 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 I heard something. 246 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,000 To me, it sounded like there was somebody in here 247 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 and would have moved or walked. 248 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,000 I tell you what, we were investigating on the first floor 249 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,000 and I heard a noise off to my left. 250 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,000 Sounded like a shuffle, like somebody walked in the den 251 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,000 or something like that. 252 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,000 I heard something. 253 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 I heard that sound. 254 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 It came from in there. 255 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,000 Hello. 256 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Are you? 257 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,000 What? 258 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,000 I don't know yet. 259 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,000 I don't hear anything. 260 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Which way to come from? 261 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Down there. 262 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 That way? 263 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Yeah. 264 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,000 I hear a noise now. 265 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,000 It sounded like a sound. 266 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 I heard a noise. 267 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,000 I heard a noise. 268 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,000 I heard a noise. 269 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,000 I heard a noise. 270 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,000 I hear a noise now. 271 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 It sounded like shuffling, like something someone was moving around 272 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 and it was pretty loud. 273 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,000 I heard something's playing on it. 274 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Hello. 275 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Can you please do that again? 276 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 If there's anything you'd like to share, 277 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 you can share that message with us. 278 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 We tried to get those sounds to happen again, 279 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000 but they didn't. 280 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 I'm not getting much of anything. 281 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Yeah, I mean either. 282 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 So we're going to have to again rely on the evidence 283 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 and see what comes out of it. 284 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:13,000 All right, so Amy and Chris, 285 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000 we are in the gift shop of the Thurber House 286 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 in Columbus, Ohio. 287 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000 So this is the room that Thurber and his brother 288 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 had heard the footsteps. 289 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Oh, okay, like it was pacing around in here. 290 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Yeah. 291 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Okay. 292 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 It's just crazy though, because I say that a lot of the writers 293 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,000 that have come through here and stayed, 294 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,000 just about every one of them that's come through 295 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,000 has had an experience. 296 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,000 Interesting. 297 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,000 Hello, is anybody home? 298 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,000 If you are here and you're listening, 299 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,000 we really need you to come out for us. 300 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 We want to know why you're still here. 301 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Do you have family you'd like to get in touch with? 302 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Are you alone? 303 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Can you move something in here? 304 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Do you hear that? 305 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Yeah, I heard a popping sound over there. 306 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000 If that was you, can you do it again? 307 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Can you knock on something next to you three times? 308 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 How long have you been here? 309 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,000 So quiet. 310 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 It really is. 311 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Chris, Amy, Steve, Dave, it's time to wrap up guys. 312 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Let's get the lights on. 313 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Camera's back. 314 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000 We just finished our case here at the Thurber house. 315 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,000 It's been an interesting night. 316 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 We've had some good luck debunking some things, 317 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,000 but we do have some paranormal things 318 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,000 that we can't explain yet. 319 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,000 James Thurber house. 320 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Yeah, that was a cool place. 321 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,000 It was fun. 322 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Well, we have a lot of stuff to look for. 323 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,000 DVR and DC and wireless and all that. 324 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,000 So why don't we dive in and get started? 325 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,000 Hey, Tango. 326 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Remember when we were investigating in the Thurber house 327 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,000 and we were sitting around that table 328 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 and you heard something. 329 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 We got what you heard on the recorder here. 330 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Great. 331 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,000 It's loud. 332 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Yeah, you hear it shuffling. 333 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,000 That's exactly what I heard. 334 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,000 That's good. 335 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,000 We had the recorder in the right spot. 336 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Nice job. 337 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Hey, Tango. 338 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000 What? 339 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Finally come across this clock video tape. 340 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Take a look at this. 341 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,000 So crazy. 342 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Oh, my God. 343 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000 It is insane. 344 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Wow. 345 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Hey, it's good to see you. 346 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Hey, it's good to see you. 347 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,000 How you been, all right? 348 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Good, yeah. 349 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000 You know, we have kind of like a two-fold mission. 350 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,000 We want to, number one, document any paranormal activity 351 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000 that we can, but we also want to try to come up 352 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 with an alternative explanation for everything. 353 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Sure. 354 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000 And when we came in, we looked at different things. 355 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,000 We looked at, I know, at one point Mr. Thurber had 356 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,000 an experience that he thought something was coming up the stairs. 357 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Right. 358 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 We tried to figure out an alternative solution for that. 359 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 The only thing we could figure out is at one point 360 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 I sent Grant up to the top of the stairs 361 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,000 and I moved around this room. 362 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 And at one point ran as if I was running out towards the door 363 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 and it sounded like it was coming upstairs. 364 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,000 What we wanted to see was, well, is it possible that somebody did 365 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 get into the house that night? 366 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Sure. 367 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,000 So that's always a possibility. 368 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000 We were just looking for an alternative solution. 369 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Sure. 370 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,000 At one point, Steve and Tango, they both heard some strange sounds. 371 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Okay. 372 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 They were able to catch it. 373 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000 We have it. 374 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,000 We'll play it for you. 375 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Okay. 376 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Here's the sound. 377 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Here you go. 378 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Right there. 379 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Yeah. 380 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,000 You hear that? 381 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Yeah. 382 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 I think the squishy part sounds like what I heard in the office above me 383 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 when I had the office down here. 384 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Okay. 385 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 I know some of the claims you've all done on the clock 386 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000 that sits here on the mantle. 387 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000 We had our own experience that night with it, which was strange. 388 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,000 We were able to catch, you know, why don't we just show you what we got? 389 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Right. 390 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 I was in the hallway and Jay was in the study there. 391 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000 This is our cameraman here. 392 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Okay. 393 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Oh my God. 394 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Look. 395 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Just about to be... 396 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Wow. 397 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,000 It shocked our camera guy pretty good. 398 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,000 Yeah, I don't think that's ever happened, so... 399 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Do you want to see it again? 400 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Sure. 401 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Oh my God. 402 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000 It's definitely a neat piece of evidence. 403 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Yeah. 404 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Wow. 405 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,000 If you notice, your clock is missing from there. 406 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,000 We actually took it and had Steve and Tango go to a professional. 407 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Okay. 408 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 And this is it here. 409 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000 It's an actually... 410 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 It's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, 411 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very. 412 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Here's the evidence. 413 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000 We're going to see where all the evidence truly came from. 414 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Okay. 415 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 So, we're going to see the evidence and actually the guy said it's in great shape. 416 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,000 You said it was built in 1925? 417 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Okay. 418 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,000 And it was actually serviced... 419 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,000 That you see right there on the door there. 420 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,000 ...1985. 421 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Oh, they just carved right in there, didn't they? 422 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,000 All it needs is a good boiling and cleaning and you know, to be wound. 423 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,000 All right. 424 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000 It's back in action. 425 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 And he said that this latch here is in great shape. 426 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,000 It's not easy to open. 427 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Yeah. 428 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,000 He said it should just... 429 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Once it's closed, it's closed. 430 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,000 So, interesting stuff there. 431 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Just back. 432 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Obviously, what's been encountered here is not malicious in any way she would perform. 433 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,000 And of course, if it does get out of hand or if anyone does feel really uncomfortable, 434 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,000 you just give us a call and we'll calm them down and come out if we need to. 435 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Thank you very much for having us here. 436 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 You're welcome. Thank you guys for coming. 437 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:11,000 I'm pleased that they found at least something little to give some validation to all the stories. 438 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Taps can come back anytime. Everybody was awesome. 439 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,000 That went well, man. 440 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Yeah, it really just made her sit there and go, wow, you know, us catching the clock face popping open. 441 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Us telling her that even the clocksmith said, doesn't see how that would happen. 442 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Yeah, there's just no reasoning for it. 443 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,000 It's nice to see that Ann is not fearful in any way, shape, or form. 444 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Absolutely. Well, good job, brother. 445 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Excellent. 446 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,000 On to the next. 447 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 So, man, back to upstate New York. 448 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Yeah, it's beautiful up here. 449 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Great place, but let's have Chris fill us in. 450 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 All right, Chris, Canfield Casino. 451 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,000 What are we in for? 452 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:58,000 All right, guys, the Canfield Casino was built back in 1870 and it's 15,000 square feet. 453 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,000 It went through a few different owners until John Canfield bought it. 454 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:08,000 The Casino F5 told about 1907 when gambling was outlawed in the city 455 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,000 and that's when the Saratoga History Museum took it over. 456 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000 All right, well, what can we expect for the paranormal? 457 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,000 They've seen apparitions. 458 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,000 They've also seen apparitions darting up the staircase. 459 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,000 The night crew has had doors slamming on them, so they have a lot of different claims. 460 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,000 All right, well, we're just about there, so, Steve, why don't you and Jay and I head right in 461 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,000 and the rest of you just start setting up. We'll get right on it. 462 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Hey, Jamie. 463 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Hi, yes, and Jason. 464 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Jason, nice to meet you. 465 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,000 How are you doing, Grant? 466 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Great, thank you. 467 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,000 This is phenomenal. 468 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Thank you very much. 469 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000 This is the Canfield Casino. 470 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000 What's some of the history here? 471 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000 What's really a unique building? 472 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,000 It was built in the year 1870 as a gambling casino by John Morrissey 473 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,000 and when he built it, the idea was to make one of the most elaborate gambling casinos in the world. 474 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 The Saratoga Spring was already well known for its spring water and medicinal purposes, 475 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000 but he decided to make sort of a playground for the rich and wealthy in the 19th century. 476 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Now, we hear there's also a lot of paranormal activity that goes on here. 477 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Yeah, we've had some unexplained things happen that we hear in various parts of the building. 478 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,000 So it's something we thought maybe we could ask you guys to come in 479 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 and maybe explain some of the other things for us. 480 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Yeah, sure. Do you want to give us a tour, show us the hotspots, 481 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000 tell us what happened in those locations, we'll go from there? 482 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Sure. We could go upstairs to the second floor and begin. 483 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,000 All right, after you. 484 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000 All right, thank you. 485 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Look at this, huh? 486 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Alrighty, so what goes on here? 487 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Well, this is the high stakes gambling room 488 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,000 and it's set up to look like a gambling room from the 1800s, 489 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 the way it really looked when this was a casino. 490 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 We had a visitor that was in one day. 491 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 She said she went through the museum with her friend. 492 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 They walked out of this room, they came in, 493 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,000 and then they saw this roulette wheel spinning just like that when they walked in. 494 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,000 And they were definitely the only visitors that were in the building at the time. 495 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 We don't know for sure why it was spinning. 496 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000 Okay, interesting. 497 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Anything else in here? 498 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Yeah, we've had a couple other occurrences in here. 499 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 There was a gentleman who was in the museum 500 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,000 and he said he saw an apparition of a woman come through our hallway 501 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000 and went straight upstairs into the third floor. 502 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000 I was going up to the third floor 503 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,000 and I saw a little bit of something out of the corner of my eye. 504 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000 So I sort of glanced over toward the stairs 505 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,000 and I saw this dress moving, gliding toward the stairs 506 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 just for maybe two seconds. 507 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000 All right, so what goes on up here? 508 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,000 We had a staff member working in this office behind us 509 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000 and she said somebody knocked on the door, 510 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,000 she turned around and it was a man in Victorian clothing. 511 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,000 And he asked her a question and then she turned around again and he was gone. 512 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Anything else up here? 513 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,000 We do have things that have happened in our costume exhibit. 514 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000 All right, let's check that out after you. 515 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 All right, well this is one of our rotating exhibits, 516 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000 so we change them about once a year. 517 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000 One day after we moved this candelabra in here, 518 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000 I was sitting in my office along with one of our curators and a volunteer 519 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000 and we actually heard... 520 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,000 we heard that sound. 521 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,000 I looked at the volunteer, she looked at me and I said, 522 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000 did you hear that? 523 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000 And she said, yeah, I heard it. 524 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 And that was it, it was exactly that sound coming from this room. 525 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000 And we were alone in the building at the time, 526 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000 there was definitely no one else with us. 527 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,000 All right, well, what we're going to do from here is get this investigation going. 528 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,000 All right. 529 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Just got done taking the tour of Canfield Casino 530 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000 and the building is beautiful. 531 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000 It really feels like you're stepping back in time. 532 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 So there's high potential for residual activity here. 533 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Okay, that's good. 534 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000 We'll leave it there. 535 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000 There seems to be activity on every floor, 536 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000 whether it be footsteps, voices, full body apparitions. 537 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000 So we're going to have to be prepared for anything tonight. 538 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000 All right. 539 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Hey guys, let me show you what we have here. 540 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Camera one is of course the high stakes gambling room. 541 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 And this of course is the roulette table 542 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 and they claim that roulette wheel would spin on its own. 543 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,000 And also that they saw a dark shadowy figures back here. 544 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,000 This is in what they call the lunch room now. 545 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,000 This room here is part of the Walworth Museum of the building here. 546 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000 And if you remember, they claim that they saw a man 547 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,000 dressed in Victorian outfit looking in that room. 548 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 And then they came out and there was nobody there. 549 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Okay, awesome. 550 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Now on the other side of this hallway, 551 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,000 getting the entire other direction and that landing, 552 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 we have a mini DV. 553 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000 That's pretty much everything, right? 554 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Yep. 555 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,000 All right, so let's get the lights out. 556 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Let's do this guys. 557 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,000 All right guys. 558 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,000 Yeah. 559 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Jay Grant, Canfield Casino. 560 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Top floor. 561 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Heading into the Walworth mention. 562 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000 So the main clans in this floor are doors moving 563 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:58,000 and creepy feelings. 564 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Are any of the Woolworths here? 565 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,000 We'd really like to talk with you. 566 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,000 We know this isn't your house, but this is all your furniture. 567 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Hey, Jay, there's some kind of intermittent EMF reading going on out here. 568 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:31,000 You know, Spike in this area and then dissipate, Spike and dissipate, so... 569 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000 What was that? 570 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000 I heard that. 571 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000 Jay and I headed up to investigate the third floor. 572 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Hey Jay, there's some kind of intermittent EMF reading going on out here. 573 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,000 I did find that there was one area with intermittent K2 readings, 574 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,000 but it was right in the area where Jamie said that people had experienced the uneasy feelings. 575 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,000 And then dissipate, Spike and dissipate, so... 576 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,000 What was that? 577 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,000 I heard that. 578 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,000 It sounded like it came right from the ground. 579 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000 I thought it came from in here. 580 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Hello? 581 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 That was clearly a male voice. 582 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Jay was next to me and we both heard a voice from inside the red bedroom. 583 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000 That sounded like a male and a female, I have to be honest. 584 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000 Yeah, well, what I heard something... What was that? 585 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000 I think something just moved. Do you hear that? 586 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Or dropped to the floor? 587 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000 Is there someone in here with us? 588 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:58,000 All of a sudden we heard it sounded like a man and a woman talking back and forth, 589 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,000 and it happened really quick. 590 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,000 While we were in the room, we did get this loud bang almost as if something dropped on the floor. 591 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,000 He just moved an object. Can you do that again? 592 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 That creek there was me, but before that was a rumble. 593 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Yeah, that wasn't you? 594 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000 No, the creek... 595 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000 It sounded like the whole floor just went... 596 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Like someone stomped on the floor a couple times. 597 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Yeah. 598 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000 All of a sudden the floor shook really quickly, almost as... 599 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,000 The only way to explain it was almost like a little mini earthquake. 600 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000 Okay, we just heard what sounded like you stomping on the floor. 601 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Can you do something else to let us know you're here? 602 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000 You come from Rhode Island? 603 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,000 We came to look at your fine furnishings? 604 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,000 If we're welcome here, can you make a sound? 605 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000 Is that all you have to say to us? 606 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,000 As of right now, the third floor has really been an exciting area to investigate, 607 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,000 and I'm looking forward to analyzing the evidence. 608 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,000 So Jean Grant heard the sounds while they were in this room. 609 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Hmm? 610 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000 But heard the voices from in the hallway. 611 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Were you just talking with someone before? 612 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Our friends couldn't help but overhear a conversation in this room. 613 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000 If you're in here with us, can you somehow let us know? 614 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Well, why don't we go into the hallway and see if we can hear maybe the voices that Jean Grant heard when they were in here? 615 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000 Yeah, maybe we need to be outside of the room. 616 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Yeah. 617 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,000 Steve was like, you know what, let's go out of the room, give this room some time, 618 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,000 and you know, let's buy our best bet to catching something. 619 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Who is he? 620 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,000 I think it's Chick. 621 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,000 I can't tell. 622 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,000 It is kind of weird. 623 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000 I don't know. 624 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000 I don't know. 625 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,000 I don't know. 626 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000 I don't know. 627 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000 I don't know. 628 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,000 I don't know. 629 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000 I don't know. 630 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,000 I don't know. 631 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,000 I don't know how many guys wear this frilly doily stuff around their neck though. 632 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Maybe back in the day. 633 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Were you hearing that tingling? 634 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,000 That metal sound? 635 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000 All of a sudden, you know, I hear it sound like chimes. 636 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:27,000 We had him and he'd be rolling, so it was like, you know what, we'll play it back and see if it's the exact same sound. 637 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000 What? 638 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,000 What's the matter? 639 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000 What? 640 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,000 What am I doing? 641 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Are you doing it? 642 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,000 Are you tapping me? 643 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,000 Did I what? 644 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Tap me. 645 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000 I did not tap you there. 646 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Right as I was sort of checking the tape, trying to listen for the sounds, I thought Tango was tapping me. 647 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,000 It wasn't you. 648 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,000 What? No, Steve. 649 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,000 You're positive. 650 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,000 I'm absolutely 100% positive. 651 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,000 You didn't tap my shoulder. 652 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,000 You're gonna find a joke. 653 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000 I swear to God. 654 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000 You know what? 655 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000 You just wait until we get that tape. 656 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,000 You'll see. 657 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,000 It was not me. 658 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000 It wasn't even freaking, I did not tap you. 659 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,000 I felt a definite touch tap, you know? 660 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,000 No mistaking it. 661 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,000 It was there and I felt it. 662 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,000 Can you tap me if you're here? 663 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,000 I don't mind. 664 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Okay, it's coming. 665 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000 Will you listen first because you heard it first. 666 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000 But it all that matters is if the sounds match. 667 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,000 You'll know more than I. 668 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,000 That's it? 669 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Really? You heard the joke? 670 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Yep. 671 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000 That's it? 672 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Oh, Loni. 673 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Listen, rewind it. 674 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,000 It sounds like the G-Series. 675 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000 It sounds exactly like that. 676 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,000 No way. 677 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,000 I just listened to it. 678 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,000 Holy cow. 679 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,000 This is exactly the same. 680 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,000 You're absolutely right. 681 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000 On the mini-DV you can hear the sound. 682 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000 The jingling of the crystals hitting each other. 683 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000 So that's what we heard. 684 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,000 What created it. 685 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000 We're not sure, you know? 686 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000 Everything combined, all these puzzle pieces 687 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,000 sort of coming together with Jane Grand experience. 688 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000 What Tangman I experienced. 689 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000 What I experienced. 690 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Maybe leading us towards the possibility of something 691 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000 paranormal being here. 692 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000 All right. 693 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000 Is that it? 694 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Yeah. 695 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,000 All right. 696 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,000 So this is the Walworth section of the museum. 697 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,000 And this is a family that has a story about the son 698 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000 who killed his father. 699 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Shot him? 700 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,000 Oh, right. 701 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000 First time we're investigating the third floor 702 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,000 of the Canfield Casino. 703 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000 And, you know, this is a floor where there was 704 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000 a lot of activity reported. 705 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000 Both of the other teams have reported having experiences 706 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,000 on this floor. 707 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000 So we're really looking forward to getting up here. 708 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,000 I wonder if we could, like, see what the heck's going on here. 709 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000 I know you already met our friends Jane, 710 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Grant and Steven Tango. 711 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,000 We heard that there was a murder in your family. 712 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Do you feel responsible or guilty for it in any way? 713 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,000 Does it offend you when people refer to you as ghosts? 714 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Do you hear something? 715 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000 Yeah. 716 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000 I'm not really sure what it was. 717 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Are you the one causing all the trouble in here? 718 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000 You don't scare us. 719 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000 Mmm. 720 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Wow. 721 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000 I didn't like that. 722 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000 What? 723 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000 I feel like my hair got stuck on something, but... 724 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000 Not any of this stuff. 725 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000 I actually felt like my hair got stuck on something. 726 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000 It felt like maybe there was something hanging from the doorway 727 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000 or from the ceiling. 728 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,000 It freaked me out a little bit. 729 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Once I realized there was nothing there, 730 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000 I was trying to figure out what happened. 731 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000 There's nothing here you can always hold on. 732 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,000 Hold on. 733 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000 Is anybody in here with us? 734 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000 Trying to pull Chris's hair? 735 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,000 I don't know, Amy. 736 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,000 It seems to have stopped. 737 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000 We were hearing noises throughout the floor. 738 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,000 I know what we experienced while we were in the area, 739 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000 and what we actually were able to hear for ourselves. 740 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000 So hopefully when Steve and Tango get into evidence review, 741 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000 they'll find even more. 742 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Hey, let's get the lights on, guys. 743 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000 It's time to wrap. 744 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Tonight's investigation at Canfield Casino has been interesting. 745 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,000 Jay and I were able to hear some noises that we can't explain. 746 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Are they paranormal or not? 747 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,000 We don't know yet. 748 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Hopefully we catch more evidence on our recorders and our cameras 749 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000 to sway us one way or the other. 750 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,000 Tango and I are getting ready to review the evidence for the Canfield Casino. 751 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,000 And this is an interesting case because each team had experiences. 752 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000 A lot of different things are happening, and that gives us a lot to look for. 753 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Hey, Steve. 754 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,000 What's up, Dave? 755 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000 I got to the part where we're hearing the sound. 756 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,000 And you really thought I tapped you. 757 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,000 Yep. 758 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000 What? 759 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,000 Clearly, there's a big gap between us. 760 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,000 Yeah? 761 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Yep. 762 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000 What? 763 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,000 You're right. 764 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,000 I mean, you don't come anywhere near me. 765 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,000 Very strange. 766 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,000 Absolutely. 767 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Hey, Tango. 768 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,000 What's up, Steve? 769 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,000 I have a spot here where Jason and Grant are hearing some voices. 770 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,000 And you can hear them on the recorder here, really. 771 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000 But it's hard to make out. 772 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000 I want you to take a listen. 773 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,000 You know, Spike in this area and then Disappate. 774 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Spike and Disappate. 775 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000 So what was that? 776 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,000 That's pretty crazy, man. 777 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,000 That's insane. 778 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,000 This I like. 779 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000 This piece of tape, this is good. 780 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Hey, Jamie. It's a good see you again. 781 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Hi, Jason. 782 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,000 How you been, all right? 783 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,000 Good, Grant. 784 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,000 One of the claims that really stuck out on the tour that we see all the time was up on the third floor, 785 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000 people just feeling kind of creeped out. 786 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000 Feeling the drafts and things like that. 787 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Typically, it's explained away by electromagnetic field. 788 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,000 Sure enough, in that area, we found electromagnetic field, but it's intermittent. 789 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,000 It's not there all the time. 790 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,000 So we're not quite sure. 791 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Some people believe that a high EMF field can act as a catalyst towards paranormal activity. 792 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000 So that's something we want to let you know about. 793 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000 Okay. 794 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,000 So in the early investigation, we broke into three separate teams of two people each, 795 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,000 and we headed to pretty much every location within the building. 796 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,000 On the first floor and on the second floor, Grant and I, we really didn't experience anything. 797 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,000 When we got to the third floor, we did start having some experiences that were a little strange. 798 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000 They came out of nowhere. 799 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,000 All right. 800 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,000 While we were standing directly outside the red room, we heard what distinctively sounded 801 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000 like a woman and a man talking. 802 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,000 It was really quick. 803 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,000 It only lasted about a second or two, and it was gone. 804 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,000 We're lucky enough that we did have the digital recorders going, that we were able to catch the audio. 805 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,000 So we want to play that for you, get your take, see if maybe it's voices that you've heard in the property before, 806 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,000 and go from there. 807 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,000 All right, here we go. 808 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:44,000 It'll spike in this area, and then dissipate, spike and dissipate. 809 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000 So, who's that? 810 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,000 Can you hear them near at the end? 811 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000 Yeah, we'll highlight that area. 812 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Who's that? 813 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,000 Who's that? 814 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000 Who's that? 815 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Why's that? 816 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,000 Are you able to hear it? 817 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,000 Yeah. 818 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,000 All right. 819 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000 Now, we obviously could hear that with our own ears. 820 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000 We reacted to it. 821 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,000 We tried to find the source for it. 822 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000 We could pinpoint where it was coming from. 823 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:16,000 Obviously, it's not as clear as when we heard it, but it's definitely there. 824 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,000 We just wanted to share that with you and back up our own experiences. 825 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Now, is that any sound that you've heard in the past in the property? 826 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000 No, I've never heard that before here. 827 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,000 But it's in the area where a lot of things have been reported to have occurred. 828 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000 So, that's very interesting. 829 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Awesome. 830 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000 All right, well, we have some other things to show. 831 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Steve and Dave were the only two people in here at this time, 832 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000 and they were upstairs on the third floor. 833 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000 They were able to hear this as well. 834 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,000 What you're listening for, the sound of those chimes, the crystals down here ringing, okay? 835 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000 There's a breastplate there. 836 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000 There's a breastplate there. 837 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000 There's a breastplate there. 838 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000 There's a breastplate there. 839 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000 So, is that the noise that you guys talk about hearing? 840 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,000 That's exactly what we heard the night when we were in my office, 841 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000 and we knew we were the only ones here. 842 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000 Everything's happening on the third floor. Interesting. 843 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,000 So, this is one of our investigators, Steve, which you met, and he has an experience. 844 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000 And this was on the third floor as well. 845 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:22,000 What? What's the matter? What? What am I doing? 846 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000 Are you doing it? Are you tapping? 847 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Did I what? 848 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,000 Tap me? 849 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,000 I did not tap you there. 850 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,000 It happened to him twice. 851 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,000 The initial time it happens, he looks back, thinking Dave's trying to get his attention. 852 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,000 Then when Dave doesn't say anything, he thinks that Dave's playing a game on him. 853 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000 It happens a few seconds after that. 854 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000 Now, there are two other things you have to understand. 855 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,000 Number one, not much ever really happens to Steve. 856 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,000 He's very slow to admit things are happening. 857 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,000 So, when he feels a tap, we're all like, 858 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000 Holy cow, something happened to you. 859 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:56,000 But also, another one of our investigators, Chris, was up further in that area into the Walworth Museum, 860 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000 and she got touched as well. 861 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:04,000 So, as you can see, the overall feeling of the night was that it felt like something was trying to interact. 862 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Obviously poking Steve, making noises, but it kept its distance most of the night. 863 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,000 When it comes down to it, you seem to have activity that stems around a residual type haunt here, 864 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,000 which is just the same type of thing happening every so often. 865 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,000 But you also have what seems to be an intelligent type haunt, 866 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,000 something that can communicate, whether it's tapping Steve on the back of the neck or things of that nature. 867 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,000 So, it definitely does seem to be things going on here. 868 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000 To what extreme? 869 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,000 I can't tell you that at this time. 870 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000 And I think you have nothing to worry about, 871 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,000 but if things escalate or get uncomfortable, 872 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,000 you let us know we'll come out and send a team out and help you out. 873 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,000 Alright, thank you very much. 874 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000 Thanks, man. We appreciate it. 875 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,000 Thank you. 876 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,000 Alright, thank you very much. 877 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,000 Let's get out of here. 878 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000 Well, I just sat for the reveal with Jason and Grant, 879 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,000 and I was very happy and excited to see what they found here in the History Museum in the Canfield Casino. 880 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,000 For years, people have said the third floor has activity, and they substantiated that. 881 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000 Well, I will say Jamie was very surprised. 882 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,000 The mere fact that we caught all that activity on the third floor, I think interested him a lot. 883 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,000 And I really wonder if some of that activity revolves around some of the artifacts there. 884 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000 It's got to, man. It's got to. 885 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,000 Then again, Steve being poked, that definitely falls under an intelligent. 886 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000 Whatever it is, is trying to communicate with him. 887 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Yeah. 888 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000 And this turned out to be a real good case in upstate New York. 889 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,000 I did have a good time.